Re: this is gonna be long

on 2012-11-08 04:18 am (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] songoftheeast
lol are one of those characters who you thought "were as straight as boiled pasta" Ayame by any chance? Because seriously, I was definitely getting the gay vibe from him, I mean Takaya can say whatever she wants, his devotion to Hatori did NOT look platonic, there was definitely something more there.

But yeah, the fact that the series was all about unconditional love and acceptance and yet it didn't feature any LBGT characters was really disappointing and quite contradictory of its theme. Oh well, at least we can always hypothesize that perhaps some of the characters were bi, I still think Ayame is and honestly... I kinda feel Saki is a straight up lesbian! No joke, her feelings for Tohru reminded me alot of Tomoyo's feelings for Sakura and really I never took the whole pairing her up with Kazuma seriously. I don't think it ever became canon at the end and I firmly believe Saki was just joking around about having feelings for Kazuma, probably to annoy Kyo. XD

Yep, okay its now my very own little headcanon that Saki was meant to be lesbian and have an unrequited love for Tohru which was never fulfilled, putting her in the same camp as Momiji and Kagura. That actually makes me feel better about Takaya's lack of LBGT sensitivity, though I still wish there was at least one homosexual couple.

But damn, I'm surprised to hear that about other Shojo manga! Guess I'm glad those haven't ever really been brought over because I really can't stand it when series just completely ignore the subject all together and just act like their universe is a "perfect normal world where its all only straight people" yuck! :/

Oh yes, Utena is a masterpiece! It's simply breathtaking, though I agree with you on the manga, it was okay but not on the level of the anime. Which isn't surprising since the anime is the original work and the manga followed after. I've noticed that the work that comes first tends to be better than subsequent works in different mediums.

Oh lawd...! lol, just lol! I am soo thankful I never was in the fandom during its run, so, so thankful! That sounds drama of epic proportions, good god! What's weird though is since I've been browsing all kinds of fanfiction from all the different time periods of Fruits Basket I see Akito featured more prominently post gender reveal then pre-gender reveal. Despite the fans complaints I think that little twist made her one of the more popular Furuba characters for some reason.

Glad I wasn't the only one that was peeved with that little comment in the Fanbook, I thought that was completely uncalled for! But then again, I heard a rumor that Takaya gets extremely pissed if anyone makes yaoi or yuri doujinshi of her work and I think she even filed lawsuits against people who did that? If that rumor was true then I guess it's not surprising she made that comment in the fanbook.

Really? You don't think Furuba is popular enough to get a remake? I thought it was the most popular shojo manga in America? Or at least that's what its logo was in all the Tokyopop editions. I've also heard it has quite the fandom overseas, I was always under the impression that it was one of more popular Shojo series, on par with Sailor Moon. But you're right, the anime by itself is a very good standalone product. The fact that it could produce such a fanbase of people who have never even read the manga really shows just how well done of a series it was from the material they had.

I still really really really reallly wish there'll be a remake someday, but oh well I'll just keep silently sitting here and hoping. :3

Ha-ha, I have no idea if Kyoko and Kyo have the same Kanji because I only read the English versions and I didn't know that's how you tell if the names are supposed to be similar. I'm still quite the beginner in Japanese, so I only go by hiragana and katakana. XD But really? You thought Ren was one of those unneeded characters? I thought she was pretty damn important since she was basically the series's main antagonist and most plot-oriented stories need a main antagonist.

Granted, she was an extremely underdeveloped one. For the kind of role she had she really should've shown up earlier in the manga or at least more often, I admit she definitely sucked as a villain.

Damn, with how you describe Yuki's character arc, I'm starting to see Machi as also one of the more "useless" later characters. Well, maybe not useless but it definitely would have made more of an impact if she'd just remained a side-character and was there to show how Yuki had finally found his place with a group of friends all his own. His whole involvement with the student council was about him taking charge of his life and moving on from the scars that his mother and Akito caused him. Him joining the student council and making friends with that whole group was basically him finally growing up and trying to make something of himself with everything that he's since learned with Tohru all ingrained within him.

The fact that Takaya decided to just ultimately focus on his relationship with Machi in particular definitely lessened the impact of his arc. That would've been absolutely brilliant if they just showed Yuki finding contentment in finally having friends that accepted and embraced the real him, since I think that's all he ever really wanted. He wanted true friends and unconditional acceptance, I don't know I never really saw him as the type that would end up in a relationship even before he was cast out of the running for Tohru's heart, I guess that's why the whole "she's like a mother to me" didn't bother me a whole lot. ((Though ironically, I thought that would have suited Momiji's character more than Yuki's))

But hey, at least we get happy singles with Momiji and Kagura... Though one could argue they're the characters with the saddest endings so maybe they don't really count?


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