Ohh god sooo sorry for the super late reply! Finals: They be eatin me XD
Anywayyys!
Yeah, Ayame's definitely pansexual he just seems the type who would be all about "free love" and wouldn't give a fuck about silly things like gender, really his whole personality screams that! Really, I think that's the whole reason Ayame was ignored by Akito, his personality I imagine was just wayy too irritating and annoying to her so she preferred to keep him as far away as possible.
I actually have a personal headcanon that while she was always closest to the 5 older Jyuunishi boys born before her, Ayame and Ritsu were like the two annoying older brothers who she always wanted to go away while Shigure, Hatori and Kureno were the "caretaker doting older brothers" that she always wanted to be around.
Actually other than those two Akito also never interacted with Kagura... I have a feeling she avoided those three because they just have the personality type that she absolutely abhorrs: Loud.
They're extremely loud, energetic people and I think she just didn't want to deal with them since even TRYING to torture them would just result in a headache, see while her most hated Jyuunishi were Kisa, Rin and Momiji, at least she could stand to be around them since since they aren't quite so... loud.
Well, actually Momiji is loud too, but I think that unlike Kagura, Ayame and Ritsu Momiji knows when to control it and his loudness is more just being happy rather then well "loud" so Akito can tolerate being around him.
The other three though? Nope. If she did anything to Kagura, Ayame and Ritsu they'd just burst out, make a scene and give her a headache so she left them alone and stayed far far away XD
Oh but I definitely agree that Akito also probably hated Ritsu because of the way he dresses, she was all jelly that even a MAN can dress girly and be feminine and she can't!
Sometimes I wonder if she also envied Yuki's girlish looks and resented him for that too...
Strangely enough I think deep down, Akito's probably the most feminine and girly of the zodiac girls. -- I still hold the opinion that the whole Hana/Kazuma thing was played off as a joke, in my mind Hana remains happily single, still in love with Tohru but is happy that her loved one is happy and that's enough for her, just like Tomoyo! XD
-- Utena is amazing, truly an anime masterpice, that one and Princess Tutu are probably the two deepest anime I've ever watched! There needs to be a remake of that one too because gahhh its spectacular! -- Hmm, it might have been just a rumor then, I forgot where I heard it but I think it was on some forum or something, but yeah you're probably right. I mean I think if Takaya was THAT homophobic then she wouldn't have written things as subtexty as she did concerning Ayame, Haru and Hana. -- Maybe Sailor Moon got more popular cause it was aired on national television while the Furuba anime wasn't? I noticed series tend to get popular depending on the popularity of their anime unfortunately.((Even when the manga is usually soo much better)) So an anime that airs on TV versus one that doesn't is definitely gonna get more viewers and thus, be more well-known, I mean its not just Sailor Moon! Look at Pokemon, CCS, Naruto, Inuyasha, Bleach, FMA
All these anime are also extremely well-known even among non-anime fans and that's probably due to them airing on American television
I betcha anything that if the Sailor Moon anime hadn't managed to make its way onto television ((and was the same length as the Furuba anime)) it would be pretty obscure too, especially since the manga's so short to begin with!
This was news to me though, Furuba is more popular in America than Japan? Really? I thought it was considered like a mainstream shojo title that middle-schoolers read, its hard to believe it would be even less well known then here. :0
But alas, if that's true that just plummets the chances even more for a Furuba anime remake, sad. That was a series that should have really followed its source material, because the manga was just THAT amazing!
Also while we're on the subject, where is my goddamned CCS remake happening?! Specifically a remake of the second season... Because anime, as much as I love you, you do NOT take out the single, most important plot point regarding Sakura's connection to Clow Reed, you just dont!
That's like, the basis of the whole plot, without that you just have the story of a girl who becomes the master of magical cards left by some dead magician that she happened to find in her library, without any explanation as to how that book "got" there or how Sakura even HAS magical powers in the first place!
//end CCS anime rant. -- Oh my god, yes, yes, yess! Furuba is completely a character centered plot and so for that if there is a villain then really, that villain needs to have pretty goddamn deep characterizaton and an explanation over how and why they're the way they are.
Ren sort of failed in all those areas which is why she kinda falls flat as a villain to me, really I think my main problem with her is that they didn't explore her enough, if the manga had and there was a logical explanation as to why she felt that way about Akira loving their own daughter then I'd have no problem with her but the sole explanation that was given with barely any screen-time?
....Yeah, it definitely felt like Takaya just pulled it all out of her ass at the last minute! She probably thought that sounded like a tragic enough explanation but failed to explain the "whys" behind it, so all in all it just appeared awkward.
I feel the exact same way about Shigure's intense desire for Akito due to that dream too by the way.
Actually, someone I know once brought up an interesting theory about Furuba, they felt that the "curse" itself was the real villain! And really, if you think about it that fits perfectly and would make an amazing metaphorical statement! -- Really? I never felt he was a decoy, I was under the impression that he, Tohru, and Kyou were all the main protagonists of the story. Sure, he stopped being Tohru's love interest but the manga still divided the focus pretty equally, though I do admit that it got kind of annoying how later in the manga it seemed to be "ALL AKITO ALL THE TIME!"
But other than that, I never felt the spotlight was taken away from him or anything, really the problem here was just that there were too many characters in general, and most of these were important, plot-relevant characters!
I mean, when you can only give the supposed "real" antagonist 3 scenes and a one chapter, half-baked explanation you KNOW you've got a problem!
If she really wanted to focus on all the characters equally, she really should've made it longer, or maybe sacrificed a few characters instead for it to be the length we got? Because, in my opinion it doesn't really work just the way it is... Heck, the Sailor Moon manga had this exact same problem! -- I literally wept like a baby when I got to the end and found no "Momiji reuniting with his family." I think that's the main thing that really showed how Furuba was actually quite the tragedy and was meant to be bittersweet.
I almost feel Momiji was meant to be the "martyr" of the story, especially on how he seems to be the most genuine kindest and selfless person in the whole series! ((Of course Tohru is too, but unlike Momiji she has quite a lot of dark thoughts)).
The whole "Traveler" story he kept on telling really pushed home this fact, and really I both love it and hate it!
Love it because it tugs at my heartstrings and shows that not everyone can be happy and find acceptance, and really? Sometimes the nice people really ARE the losers in the end, but that's also extremely realistic so I applaud Takaya for that!
Of course I also hate it because Momiji was in my top 3 favorite characters of this series and all I wanted was for him to have his happy ending! T_T
Oh but yes, yes, Kagura and Momiji taking over the world? Together? This needs to happen! Like, right now, someone write a fic of this!
With Kagura as ruler of the world no one would DARE start up any wars because they'd be too scared of her wrath. XD
Also OT, but ZOMG PERSO-FREAKIN-POLIS?! You're a fan of that movie/comic too?! I fucking loved that one, it seriously needs more of a fandom!
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Re: this is gonna be long
on 2012-12-12 02:36 am (UTC)Anywayyys!
Yeah, Ayame's definitely pansexual he just seems the type who would be all about "free love" and wouldn't give a fuck about silly things like gender, really his whole personality screams that! Really, I think that's the whole reason Ayame was ignored by Akito, his personality I imagine was just wayy too irritating and annoying to her so she preferred to keep him as far away as possible.
I actually have a personal headcanon that while she was always closest to the 5 older Jyuunishi boys born before her, Ayame and Ritsu were like the two annoying older brothers who she always wanted to go away while Shigure, Hatori and Kureno were the "caretaker doting older brothers" that she always wanted to be around.
Actually other than those two Akito also never interacted with Kagura... I have a feeling she avoided those three because they just have the personality type that she absolutely abhorrs: Loud.
They're extremely loud, energetic people and I think she just didn't want to deal with them since even TRYING to torture them would just result in a headache, see while her most hated Jyuunishi were Kisa, Rin and Momiji, at least she could stand to be around them since since they aren't quite so... loud.
Well, actually Momiji is loud too, but I think that unlike Kagura, Ayame and Ritsu Momiji knows when to control it and his loudness is more just being happy rather then well "loud" so Akito can tolerate being around him.
The other three though? Nope. If she did anything to Kagura, Ayame and Ritsu they'd just burst out, make a scene and give her a headache so she left them alone and stayed far far away XD
Oh but I definitely agree that Akito also probably hated Ritsu because of the way he dresses, she was all jelly that even a MAN can dress girly and be feminine and she can't!
Sometimes I wonder if she also envied Yuki's girlish looks and resented him for that too...
Strangely enough I think deep down, Akito's probably the most feminine and girly of the zodiac girls.
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I still hold the opinion that the whole Hana/Kazuma thing was played off as a joke, in my mind Hana remains happily single, still in love with Tohru but is happy that her loved one is happy and that's enough for her, just like Tomoyo! XD
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Utena is amazing, truly an anime masterpice, that one and Princess Tutu are probably the two deepest anime I've ever watched! There needs to be a remake of that one too because gahhh its spectacular!
--
Hmm, it might have been just a rumor then, I forgot where I heard it but I think it was on some forum or something, but yeah you're probably right. I mean I think if Takaya was THAT homophobic then she wouldn't have written things as subtexty as she did concerning Ayame, Haru and Hana.
--
Maybe Sailor Moon got more popular cause it was aired on national television while the Furuba anime wasn't? I noticed series tend to get popular depending on the popularity of their anime unfortunately.((Even when the manga is usually soo much better)) So an anime that airs on TV versus one that doesn't is definitely gonna get more viewers and thus, be more well-known, I mean its not just Sailor Moon! Look at Pokemon, CCS, Naruto, Inuyasha, Bleach, FMA
All these anime are also extremely well-known even among non-anime fans and that's probably due to them airing on American television
I betcha anything that if the Sailor Moon anime hadn't managed to make its way onto television ((and was the same length as the Furuba anime)) it would be pretty obscure too, especially since the manga's so short to begin with!
This was news to me though, Furuba is more popular in America than Japan? Really? I thought it was considered like a mainstream shojo title that middle-schoolers read, its hard to believe it would be even less well known then here. :0
But alas, if that's true that just plummets the chances even more for a Furuba anime remake, sad. That was a series that should have really followed its source material, because the manga was just THAT amazing!
Also while we're on the subject, where is my goddamned CCS remake happening?! Specifically a remake of the second season... Because anime, as much as I love you, you do NOT take out the single, most important plot point regarding Sakura's connection to Clow Reed, you just dont!
That's like, the basis of the whole plot, without that you just have the story of a girl who becomes the master of magical cards left by some dead magician that she happened to find in her library, without any explanation as to how that book "got" there or how Sakura even HAS magical powers in the first place!
//end CCS anime rant.
--
Oh my god, yes, yes, yess! Furuba is completely a character centered plot and so for that if there is a villain then really, that villain needs to have pretty goddamn deep characterizaton and an explanation over how and why they're the way they are.
Ren sort of failed in all those areas which is why she kinda falls flat as a villain to me, really I think my main problem with her is that they didn't explore her enough, if the manga had and there was a logical explanation as to why she felt that way about Akira loving their own daughter then I'd have no problem with her but the sole explanation that was given with barely any screen-time?
....Yeah, it definitely felt like Takaya just pulled it all out of her ass at the last minute! She probably thought that sounded like a tragic enough explanation but failed to explain the "whys" behind it, so all in all it just appeared awkward.
I feel the exact same way about Shigure's intense desire for Akito due to that dream too by the way.
Actually, someone I know once brought up an interesting theory about Furuba, they felt that the "curse" itself was the real villain! And really, if you think about it that fits perfectly and would make an amazing metaphorical statement!
--
Really? I never felt he was a decoy, I was under the impression that he, Tohru, and Kyou were all the main protagonists of the story. Sure, he stopped being Tohru's love interest but the manga still divided the focus pretty equally, though I do admit that it got kind of annoying how later in the manga it seemed to be "ALL AKITO ALL THE TIME!"
But other than that, I never felt the spotlight was taken away from him or anything, really the problem here was just that there were too many characters in general, and most of these were important, plot-relevant characters!
I mean, when you can only give the supposed "real" antagonist 3 scenes and a one chapter, half-baked explanation you KNOW you've got a problem!
If she really wanted to focus on all the characters equally, she really should've made it longer, or maybe sacrificed a few characters instead for it to be the length we got? Because, in my opinion it doesn't really work just the way it is... Heck, the Sailor Moon manga had this exact same problem!
--
I literally wept like a baby when I got to the end and found no "Momiji reuniting with his family." I think that's the main thing that really showed how Furuba was actually quite the tragedy and was meant to be bittersweet.
I almost feel Momiji was meant to be the "martyr" of the story, especially on how he seems to be the most genuine kindest and selfless person in the whole series! ((Of course Tohru is too, but unlike Momiji she has quite a lot of dark thoughts)).
The whole "Traveler" story he kept on telling really pushed home this fact, and really I both love it and hate it!
Love it because it tugs at my heartstrings and shows that not everyone can be happy and find acceptance, and really? Sometimes the nice people really ARE the losers in the end, but that's also extremely realistic so I applaud Takaya for that!
Of course I also hate it because Momiji was in my top 3 favorite characters of this series and all I wanted was for him to have his happy ending! T_T
Oh but yes, yes, Kagura and Momiji taking over the world? Together? This needs to happen! Like, right now, someone write a fic of this!
With Kagura as ruler of the world no one would DARE start up any wars because they'd be too scared of her wrath. XD
Also OT, but ZOMG PERSO-FREAKIN-POLIS?! You're a fan of that movie/comic too?! I fucking loved that one, it seriously needs more of a fandom!